Champion Body Builder Roger Snipes Explores NanoVi® Technology on his Podcast for Biohackers, The Roger Snipes Show

In an interview with Rowena Gates, Roger Snipes investigates how NanoVi works and describes the benefits he gets from using the NanoVi device.

High performance has helped define Roger Snipes since he was young. After success as a competitive body builder, his interest in wellness and anti-aging grew. Roger incorporated NanoVi in his training routine and quickly became a fan of the device. NanoVi fits perfectly with his approach of supporting the body at its foundation, by improving cellular activities. Roger uses NanoVi for physical performance, faster recovery after training, and to reduce oxidative stress damage for healthy aging. He talks about these benefits, his use of NanoVi and a range of related topics with Rowena Gates. Enjoy the interview.

I do tend to use it every single day and it does help with reducing free radicals and oxidative stress, it helps to create cellular repair and for me personally I use it as a way to increase my athletic performance when I’m training and also to help deal with recovery.

-Roger Snipes, body builder and podcast host

More about Roger Snipes and his approach to biohacking

Roger Snipes had the makings of a biohacker early – he has looked for ways to be better since his youth. As a child, Roger was already growing a lot of his own food – although not because he was already biohacking. Roger’s work in the garden was more his father’s idea than his own. Regardless, it gave him the appreciation for fresh high-quality food that became a cornerstone of his own wellness routine and what he teaches to others.

Out of a drive to be better in track and field while in high school, Roger started weight training. He pushed hard, with obvious success. Friends encouraged Roger to compete and often told him that he looked better than the models in fitness ads and most body builders. Roger’s initial reluctance to compete was more about displaying himself in a thong than competition itself. In fact, Roger is highly competitive and willing to do whatever was necessary to be the best. He simply doesn’t like to lose so he commits the time and attention required to win.

A standard of excellence shows up in Roger Snipes’ Career

Roger’s history of success reflects his winning attitude, here are some highlights.

Competitions:

• Mr. UK 2010, 1st place – Model
• Mr. Britannia 2010, 1st place – Model
• Musclemania 2011, Qualifier 1st place – under 85kg Body Building
• Fame UK 2011/Miami pro – 1st place – Muscle model
• Musclemania British championship final – 1st place and Overall – over 85kg- Body Building
• WBFF European Championship 2013, 1st Place – Muscle model
• WBFF World Championship 2015, 2nd place – Muscle Model

Roger Snipes is also a successful model and fitness trainer and, more recently, host of a well-received podcast called The Roger Snipes Show. As host he acts as “a fitness influencer with a passion for self-development through mind, body and spirit”. Now in his early 40’s, Roger has maintained his focus on excellence and performance and added a passion for wellness and healthy aging. Since these interests perfectly describe NanoVi users, it is no surprise that Roger Snipes is such an advocate of the NanoVi device.If you’d like to learn more about the NanoVi device, its proven benefits, and the price, sign in below.

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Welcome to episode 33 of the Roger Snipes Show. Yes, my friends, hope all is well, and you are having an amazing day. So, today’s episode is going to be about one particular device which I use on a regular basis, which is called the NanoVi. Now, some of you might have seen me use it. You know it is weird because it is such a technical device, such an amazing bit of equipment that when I talk about it in my IG stories or posts, I just do not know how to word it, because there is so much science to it, so much research and peer review studies to piece this amazing device together, that I feel as though I do not have the linguistic diversity to even talk about it, but you know I just try to do it in my own way and make it as authentic as possible when I talk about it.

Now, I do tend to use it every single day, and it does help with reducing free radicals and oxidative stress, helps to create cellular repair and yeah it is for those who, well for me personally, I use it as a way to increase my athletic performance when I am training and also to help deal with recovery as well and obviously as you guys know, I am a big fan of anything that promotes antiaging and longevity. You know, I am now 41 years old, so it is kind of important for me to really look at things in the long run, like I want to look at things you know further down the line.You know aesthetics is incredible, it is nice to look in the mirror and be happy with what looks back at me, but at the same time, you know I am very, very much into knowing that I am not going to have any disease in the future, you know, I have had loads of different check-ups, things like, obviously you got the DNA test, the microbiome test, I have had my visceral and subcutaneous fat levels checked, learned about different intolerances. I am also going to have a hormones test done at some point soon just to see how that is, and I probably will be having another microbiome test but it is really important for me to make sure that I am doing whatever I can to try and make sure whatever tests I have done, everything is in good harmony basically.

So, the device itself sounds like this. I have actually got it like wired up to my nostrils, it is like you are just breathing in almost similar to structured water vapor, but the person who I am interviewing today will be able to explain it much better today. Her name is Rowena. So, it sounds like this. I do not know if you can hear it. Yeah, and all I need to do is just breathe it in. So, when I am by my laptop and I am doing some work, I just normally just sit here and just breathe in and while I am breathing it in, it is dealing with any kind of cellular damage, reactive oxygen species. It is like, you know, ridding all of those free radicals. It is a real profound bit of equipment, it really is, but anyway, let me turn this thing off.

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Anyway, so the person who I am interviewing today is Rowena Gates, who is a principal at Eng3 Corporation, which is the company that has created the NanoVi device. Now, she helped launch Eng3’s NanoVi Technology and currently oversees business development and it is used for health regeneration and performance. Rowena is a serial entrepreneur. Now, prior to joining Eng3, she spent six years as founder and CEO of Aviarc Corporation, an internetbased solutions provider for international trade. Before this, she co-founded a document imaging company that merged in Image Source, back in 1995 she co-founded one of the earliest companies to offer an internet-based solution to logistics industry, which is quite profound. She is a bit of a pioneer.

Now, Rowena received her PhD from the University of Washington for her work on international strategic alliances and economic development with now helping bringing NanoVi to the world, Rowena enjoys a range of outdoor activities, family friends, and her own version of biohacking.Now, before we get started in the podcast, we have Rowena. I have to let you know that the sound quality from my end was bad, I do not know what happened. I think the microphone was not plugged in at the time. So, I have to apologize. Now, her microphone is really good, so you can hear her very clearly. So, any questions which I asked at least you can hear exactly what she is saying back. All right, cool, now I have got that out the way, let’s bring on Rowena Gates.

Roger Snipes: Do you hear me?

Rowena Gates: I hear you perfectly, tell me where you want to start?

Roger Snipes: Oh, where do I start, where do I stop. Well, first of all thank you very much for your time today. I really appreciate you being available. Now, I have been talking about the NanoVi in my stories on my social media and so many people question like what is this device? We need a bit more of an explanation. So, you know, with you being the CEO or the Vice President or the…

Rowena Gates: I am one of the two key people here and I am not the science person. I am not the technical person, so that is probably a good thing, because my story is much more understandable than my partner’s.

Roger Snipes: Okay, so could you give us an insight into the NanoVi and what it is and what it does exactly?

Rowena Gates: Sure. So, first of all, it was developed by Hans Eng, my partner, and what it is is just a small device where you inhale humidified air that comes from the device and the secret is what is taking place and how that humidity is treated and inside the device, the water droplets are adjusted to a more excited or more ordered form, the state is changed, and that actually the same state that is needed by our cells in order for them to function correctly. We can get into that later. The body does it naturally to create this ordered water and so what the NanoVi device does is, it creates it inside the device and augments the body by delivering the humidity through inhalation.

Roger Snipes: Right, okay, and what happens when you inhale it, what happens with the whole protein process. So, what I understand that protein unfolds or something, so what is happening there and where does the NanoVi intervene?

Rowena Gates: Yeah, so now, we get to the body and that is the complicated part, and it is true that a lot of what is going on in the body is not even understood yet in science, so it is so complicated and so interesting. There are so many proteins, they estimate about a million, they only know about 30,000 of them. So, they have not even been identified and the proteins are not the same as the proteins you eat, but related in that, when you eat protein, you are eating amino acids and you want the right food to come into the system. Inside the body, the proteins are made up of amino acids, and though they create a long chain of amino acids and that chain has to fold into the correct shape in order for the protein to function. Now, why that is important is that the proteins are almost everything, that is your structure, the muscles are largely collagen, proteins, or contractile proteins. Most of your body is mostly made up of proteins. There are some minerals and things in there too of course, and then they are also doing everything that you do. So, when you just blinked your eyes, that is a protein activity. They store things, they transport things, they signal in order for you to respond to your environment, whether it is hot or cold or whatever, and so all the work in the body is done by the proteins, all of it. They are called the workhorse of the cell. So, you want them working well, and in order to work, they have to fold into these complicated three-dimensional structures correctly, so that they can actually do the job they need to do, and that is where the NanoVi comes in is it supports that process of protein folding, and that is all it does. After that, the body does all the amazing things it does. So, it is a very fundamental influence on the body.

Roger Snipes: What creates the actual unfolding in the first place?

Rowena Gates: Largely, that is damaged and we always hear free radicals right, and we take antioxidants to interrupt them and that is a good thing, but a lot of times, the antioxidant does not get there in time, and so the free radical damage is a cell component which could be the DNA, RNA, anything in the cell, but most likely it is the proteins, because they are all over the place in there, you know, a typical cell might have 8-10,000 proteins is just an estimate, but they do not really know that, you know, and so it is really packed in there with these proteins, they are easily damaged by free radicals or reactive oxygen species and once they are damaged, they need to be corrected. Other proteins correct them, which is if you think about that, that is pretty important, because if the proteins that are meant to fix things are themselves damaged, that is not good, you end up with a downward spiral, right, and so that is where a lot of the damage is oxidative damage, it is free radicals, oxidative stress, and we cannot avoid that, because we burn oxygen for fuel, and in order to do that, you have to have oxidative damage, it is just going to be a result of it.

Roger Snipes: So, this is any type of free radicals, like free radicals from foods that we eat, from the environment, from any kind of thing?

Rowena Gates: Yeah, absolutely, that oxidative stress damages is free radicals, it is hugely impacted by radiation, what we eat, what we put on our skin, and what we are exposed to, those are all ways to reduce that damage, which are really smart thing to do and then, yeah.

Roger Snipes: So, I am just thinking about, you mentioned radiation, that is quite an interesting one, that is a real interesting one, because you know we are at constant attack from EMR and radiation, and it is now apparent that 5G is rolling out adds to our living microwave, like where does this help, like okay, so you know this cause an obvious strain to our DNA, which can cause mutations and lead to diseases, where can the NanoVi help here, like what is going on?

Rowena Gates: Well, the DNA damage specifically, and it is interesting that one has been studied that NanoVi will reduce the double-strand DNA breaks, which is the worst kind of damage, because when both strands are broken, it is hard to fix, but that fixing the DNA is a protein function, and so it is becoming harder and harder to avoid damage, as you pointed out, and also the sun alone is a factor and you can see that in people that, you know, if one person is not in the sun and one is their whole life, their skin is different, you know. There is a damaging component, the sun has kind of got that good and bad thing that seems to happen all the time in biology, and so you want sun but not too much because you can get damaged in lots of natural ways and then on top of that we have just piled on unnatural ways to get more damage it seems. So, some things they are all different wavelengths, somethings are more harmful than others, and so it all depends on what those wavelengths are, lots of things like the radio, it does not even affect the human body, the wavelengths, that is so big that it is, you know, it is not going to influence us, but then we get in to tighter and tighter zones, all the way up to gamma radiation, which they use to kill things in the body and so you know we have a lot going on out there and there is sort of this endless need for repair.

Roger Snipes: I was thinking, so many companies claim on, you know, things which they can do, and they talk about how we can benefit the body, but the thing is there are many things which is backed by clinical research and studies, what sort of studies and clinical researches has NanoVi undergone to prove it works, its legitimacy?

Rowena Gates: There is a lot going on right now, but part that I am really most excited about was a research group that could show a pretty dramatically positive impact on protein folding, protein recovery. So, they intentionally damaged them in a variety of ways, which are all oxidative stress, but it could be radiation or heat or chemicals, and then they look at how well they recover if they are treated with a placebo versus an active device, and if they are pretreated versus post-treated. So, it is quite complex research design in the end, but the results are really dramatic. So, that is to me is just so exciting, that it could have such a huge impact on the proteins themselves. On humans, it has been studied in a double-blind placebo-controlled research, where the person was damaged. So, the idea is we want to create oxidative stress and then we want to see how well they do if they use a placebo device or if they use an active NanoVi device, and those studies showed with different measures ranging from 10% to 17% better results and that was after one session. So, that was on a human after just one session and the way that research was done was on athletes doing an all-out exercise test, where they go to exhaustion and either the doctor stops the test or the athlete stops, and the reason athletes are used is because you can stress them legally, and you cannot take your grandmother with chronic illness and use her as a test and so athletes with that they showed better immune response, faster kicking in to repair mode, and dramatically less lactate in the blood when the athlete was pretreated and then I mentioned the DNA studies as well, those are very complicated blood testing smaller studies.

Roger Snipes: What, they have shown some DNA repair afterwards?

Rowena Gates: Yes, and one was done through an Olympic Training Center in Austria, and that ranged from, the averages are not so meaningful when you have a small sample, but the range was from 16% to 34% improvement in athletes, a reduction in the double-strand DNA breaks.
So, those were some of them. There have been some others done and there are some other ones that are very interesting, that you would be more interested in around, glutathione and so on. You want to improve that production of glutathione and other kind of antioxidants in the body, and that is not being released yet. There is some exciting stuff going on.

Roger Snipes: So, are you saying that with the studies, there is a link to show that this can help glutathione?

Rowena Gates: So, the question is that yes, the data shows that it is apparent, but at this point, that is just statistical significance that we want to hit that those markers, so then we proceed with caution on that data until we have a level of statistical significance.

Roger Snipes: Okay, well when that does come out, please let me know.

Rowena Gates: And then the other side of it, just really briefly, I do not get into this, this is completely my partner Hans Eng, but the device itself is tested, the output, the water is tested. So, there is a lot of testing involved in looking at the actual humidity that is coming out, and then it does have this state that is needed, this ordered water where the water molecules are packed together more tightly. So, that part is also studied, but that is not so interesting to humans, you know, because we want it to have an effect on us.

Roger Snipes: Yeah, that is not the sexy information for a lot of people. So, it creates this structured vapor, structured water vapor, and you can also drink structured water I am sure, and why would I not just drink structured water, wouldn’t that do the same thing?

Rowena Gates: Well, one of the reasons we say ordered water, and you know, is that structured water is like a big category, and we would fall under that, because the ordered water is definitely structured, but you can also structure water in lots of other ways, like with additives, like silica is added, and then the water molecules are different, they cluster and so on, and so there is lots of things you can do to water, you can put it in a blender, spin it, but they are all different from what we do, and they will not have the impact of what our device has and for some of this research, there is a lot of ongoing research also on the water, like looking at the actual water structure is fascinating, but again not the biology side of things. So, it does have a short life in what we would call bulk water, like a glass of water is bulk, and then it is just the droplets, and so it can be measured but it is a short life. So, you could not take the water from, you know, run our device into a glass of water and then ship it somewhere. It would be like temperature, it would disappear really quickly, but there are some studies that have shown that with a glass of water or bulk water, there is a measurable impact on it.

Roger Snipes: Interesting!

Rowena Gates: But you have to have your NanoVi device right there to make the water, in which case you may as well just breathe the air from the device, because the other thing is your digestive tract is really different than going in through the mucous membrane and inhalation. They are designed differently.

Roger Snipes: You mentioned a little bit earlier about athletic performance and that you have done some tests, placebo-controlled, and does it affect like power athletes and endurance athletes, does it affect both of them? If so, how?

Rowena Gates: It is really interesting, and in fact we have an article, I will get to you at some point written on this, because as those two come together at a point, and I cannot give you all the science of that, and it would be boring anyway, but I think the easiest explanation is that they may cause damage in different ways, but both those athletes have a higher than normal need for repair, all athletes do, because they are metabolizing more oxygen, they are doing more with their bodies. They also will have a higher capacity for repair, because they are more fit, you know, in better health in general usually, but it is so critical for performance to repair quickly, keep everything working well, because otherwise they will see the decline in performance before long, and there is so many athletes that are recognized all around, you know, these guys are all dying early or they are wreck, you know they cannot do stuff at an older age, you do not want that, you know. You got to keep up with the damage.

Roger Snipes: Yeah, exactly. So, I do not know whether you have been able to check, have you been able to compare which athlete has more ROS happening in the body?

Rowena Gates: You know that research might be done. We have not done it. I know that endurance athletes have a real issue there even when you are doing powerlifts or something, those brakes give your body a chance to repair, but when you get into the ultra-athletes and so on, they are not giving their bodies any real break, and so I would guess that, that is not recommended, and they are definitely metabolizing a lot more oxygen. So, you also have to have a much higher capacity to repair oxidative damage or you will go downhill.

Roger Snipes: Also, just curious to see which one of the NanoVi device would have to work out more on, and just which one creates more damage to themselves, like when they have been over exerting themselves, and which one would need more time to repair?

Rowena Gates: Well, you might be interested in Andre Rossouw, is he did a DECA ultramarathon, which is an ultramarathon of an Ironman distance and the DECA is 10 days in a row, and it is like okay that does not seem like a very good idea, but then he used the NanoVi every night and he could definitely tell, he does other extreme events, and so you can tell the difference for sure.

Roger Snipes: We got the NanoVi over here, see it?

Rowena Gates: And now it is draped. I like what you have done.

Roger Snipes: That is terrible, oh my God.

Rowena Gates: I think that I am going to be able to guess who is the interior designer in the family.

Roger Snipes: So, yeah this is here. I have shown a few people on my Instagram, and they were asking like if it was a fax machine, I do not know, some sort of medical device. It does look a bit medical orientated, and obviously during the evening time, I will switch this over to red to get the melatonin kicking in and stuff. Yeah, it is pretty cool though. It is pretty cool. For the future, do you think you might be or I do not know, Hans or whoever the people who pieced this together, do you think there might be a smaller version to travel with possibly. I mean it is a big bit of kit and you know I have traveled quite a lot and I have thought about “Ah, ha, wish I could bring this along,” but it probably takes up quite a lot of space. Now, some people might do that, yeah is there any future designs or is this it?

Rowena Gates: It is a possibility for