Kayla Barnes has been an influencer in the health and wellness industry for 10+ years and is currently CEO of Brain Upgraded, a concierge brain health coaching company whose mission is to help clients and community heal their brains and optimize cognition through proven science-backed approaches. Kayla has been named one of the top global human longevity leaders by Mind Maps and has been featured in Forbes, Biohackers Magazine, Thrive Global, Byrdie, BeWell Magazine and more. She studied Human Sciences at the University of Savoy Mont Blanc and received certification to become a brain health coach from the Amen Clinics, training under renowned brain doctor Dr. Daniel Amen. It was truly an honor to be featured on her podcast below:
Kayla is also a friend of the biohacking community. She has been open about her wellness journey which began after years of battling brain-related issues such as ADHD, anxiety, and at times, depression. She, like many others before her with these types of afflictions, tried numerous conventional medicinal therapies – all of which failed. So, she began to explore functional medicine to provide solutions for her cognitive ailments.
Kayla was finally able to heal her brain and body by upgrading her biology through proper nutrition, mindful movement, biohacking, and following a brain health protocol. Now, through the company she runs, Kayla works with other CEOs and high-performing individuals to optimize their brains and bodies. As part of her mission, Kayla likes to stay on the cutting edge of new science-backed technologies to provide the best coaching possible for her high-profile clients. NanoVi is distinguished by being one of Kayla’s favorite pieces of biohacking equipment.
https://eng3corp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/kayla-2-1.png“I use the NanoVi daily. Sometimes pre-exercise, sometimes post exercise, post hyperbaric and definitely feel an impact on lessening brain fog… which is especially (important) for people that are Type A and that are bio-hackers. You know, we wanna burn the candle at all ends from working out hard, to being successful and performing well in our careers and our fields, so I think it’s important we prioritize recovery… I’m grateful for NanoVi.“
– Kayla Barnes, CEO of Brain Upgraded and podcaster
By using natural bio-hacking methods, instead of pharmaceuticals, Kayla was able to rebound from a history of brain-related ailments, which ultimately spring boarded her toward becoming a brain health coach and launching a company helping others achieve optimal brain health. During our time together recording this podcast, I think Kayla’s passion, compassion, intelligence and ingenuity really shine through. She is ultra-focused on helping others achieve peak brain performance through science-based technologies and this is only possible because she, herself, is achieving peak brain performance. It can only beneficial to have NanoVi as a big part of her daily routine. Enjoy!
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Transcript of Kayla Barnes Discusses Brain Biohacking, Optimal Health, Peak Performance, and Longevity with Rowena Gates
00:00:00 Kayla Barnes
Welcome back to Brain Biohacking with your host, Kayla Barnes.
We dive into all things optimal health, optimal brain health, nutrition, peak performance, cognitive excellence, biohacking longevity and so much more.
(Intro)
00:00:20 Kayla Barnes
Welcome back to Brain Biohacking. Today I’m chatting with the principal of Eng3 Corporation, the owner of one of my favorite devices, the NanoVi.
I use the NanoVi daily; sometimes pre-exercise, sometimes post-exercise, post-hyperbaric and so much more.
We’re going to go into all the details, but today I’m speaking with Rowena Gates. She helped launch Eng3 NanoVi technology and currently oversees business development for its use in health, wellness and performance.
Rowena been serial entrepreneur since 1995, when she co-founded one of the earliest companies to offer an Internet based solution to the logistics industry. Rowena received her PhD from the University of Washington for her work on international strategic alliances and regional development.
While her collaborative approach remains, her focus has shifted from the economic wellbeing of regions, to the health and wellness of individuals.
Stay tuned, I know you’re going to love this episode!
00:01:26 Rowena Gates
We want to amp up the reset and repair side of the equation, even in someone like you – perfectly healthy but we want to keep that repair up because it keeps you feeling great.
00:01:38 Kayla Barnes
Before we get into the episode, I have some exciting news! I have brought on my first podcast sponsor and this is taking quite some time because I want to make sure that I’m only offering you tools that are the most effective and most worth your time.
I’ve partnered with the brand that I’ve loved for a long time called Inside Tracker. I’m a big fan of testing your blood biomarkers to understand the current state of your health, to then biohack your way to better health. Inside Tracker is an at-home or in-lab blood test that will not only show you your biomarkers based on an optimal range for you, but will also give you an action plan with personalized guidance on the right exercise, nutrition and supplementation for your body.
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Thank you for listening and stay tuned. I know you’re going to love this episode.
00:02:43 Kayla Barnes
Rowena, I’m so excited to have you here with me today!
00:02:47 Rowena Gates
Oh, it’s really good to be on the show, thank you.
00:02:50 Kayla Barnes
You’re so welcome! So, I just showed my NanoVi off next to me. I keep it right on my desk and we were kind of going back and forth when we both use it and I was talking about the time that I used it recently right before bed and I got over 3.5 hours of deep sleep. I’m super excited to dive really deep into all things NanoVi and what this device is and how it works.
I want to start though with your background. What got you into this?
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00:03:20 Rowena Gates
Well, I was originally a serial entrepreneur in high tech on Internet based software companies and I was in international trade and logistics. I said that I would just help Eng3, and I never left because nobody in trade and logistics ever said, “oh you changed my life!” It felt so good to be involved where you could make a difference for people, and so that I stayed in there. That was 17 years ago. That was before we had the NanoVi product, but it was another wellness product. It really has been a fun area to work in, as you know.
00:04:02 Kayla Barnes
Absolutely. I mean health and Wellness and doing things that you can see a direct impact on the quality of people’s lives is certainly exciting.
So, what exactly were you brought in to help with at first?
00:04:14 Rowena Gates
I was just doing a lot of – I hate to say it – English translation almost, because my partner Hans Eng is German. That’s where NanoVi came from. He’s a German Engineer and he developed it and his English wasn’t as good as his engineering skills, let’s just put it that way!
00:04:34 Kayla Barnes
Well, that was a really important role. Thank goodness that you were able to help there.
So, tell us, what is the NanoVi?
00:04:42 Rowena Gates
It is a device. People can’t see it. It’s about the footprint of the size of a small printer, and there’s a tube that comes out of it and delivers humidified air and you’re inhaling that air. What’s special about it is the water droplets in the airstream have been adjusted by the device in a way that ultimately makes them beneficial for the cells in your body for cellular function, and we can get into all of that later, but just really kind of end to end you breathe it, and then it has an impact on cellular function and after that it’s up to the body how that looks. So, it depends on a person’s condition, what impact is going to be most noticeable to them.
00:05:32 Kayla Barnes
Very interesting and just because you guys can’t see it, it’s an incredibly easy device to use, which I love, because you can do it while doing something else. So, you can do it while working, you can do it while watching television if you like. You can do it while doing so many other things. It makes it really convenient, unlike some other devices. If you’re in a sauna, you can’t really be doing too much other than being in the sauna, so that I really, really love.
There’s a lot of patents involved in NanoVi, right? How many patents are involved in NanoVi?
00:06:06 Rowena Gates
I don’t know the number because there are a lot of different claims on patents that have been approved. However, it’s a very solid patent foundation for the device because it’s really innovative and new, and it’s actually so new that the Patent Office used our company to train staff because they struggled with our device and they wanted to introduce their staff to the kinds of new technologies that they have to figure out how to deal with.
So, it was interesting, we had about 15 patent officers there learning things because they tend to want to pigeonhole a technology with something similar and ours just didn’t fit, so the patent process was quite long.
00:06:58 Kayla Barnes
Wow, that that’s really cool though. You know you’re really onto something when you have to teach them what you’re doing. So NanoVi creates EZ-Water, right?
00:07:10 Rowena Gates
It does. It actually is creating the nature of the water it creates initiate EZ-Water in the cells. It doesn’t just create it at the device and deliver the EZ-Water and you inhale EZ-Water. It’s actually delivering water droplets with water called these coherent domains and their clusters of within the water droplets.
They hold an energy state and when that goes into the body’s water through the mucous membrane, because you inhale it, that’s what triggers the formation of the EZ-Water on the surfaces in the body and the cells, and so EZ-Water doesn’t just fill up a container. It forms on surfaces and it forms at the site. So if you have a protein or mitochondria or something, the EZ-Water has to has to form around that particle. So, what we’re doing is triggering that formation within the cell.
00:08:28 Kayla Barnes
Interesting, can you talk a little bit about what EZ-Water is? Because I hear it quite a bit in the biohacking community.
00:08:35 Rowena Gates
Yeah, it’s really an interesting area. First of all, we’re lucky because we’re in Seattle, and that’s where Gerald Pollack is, and he’s a wonderful friend to us and our company. But he’s really pushed back the frontiers of water science and he came out with a book that’s popular amongst biohackers called ‘The Fourth Phase of Water’, because we know about liquid, solid and gas. His point is there’s a fourth phase and it’s almost like a gel-type of consistency and it’s this special water that forms on surfaces and it’s called EZ-Water because it’s called exclusion zone water and it’s called exclusion zones because it pushes everything else out, so it excludes anything else in the water.
That happens because the water molecules are very densely packed together, so there’s no room for any other particle. They use these little beads that they measure things with, and all of those just get pushed out because the water molecules are so closely packed together.
When it’s in that state where it’s packed together, that’s where it’s called EZ-Water, or it’s almost like a gel-type of consistency. It’s not the same as regular water, although it is water.
00:10:05 Kayla Barnes
Yeah, it’s fascinating. When I think of EZ-Water, I always think of like the consistency of aloe vera gel. Would you say that, or its maybe less?
00:10:16 Rowena Gates
More important, I think Gerry would say that! Plants are a really great example. First of all, they have a lot of surfaces in their cells, so there’s lots of places that EZ-Water can form. I think that these kind of really dry climate plants that have gel inside could be considered an example of that and that’s one of the reasons – just as an aside for all of us biohackers – that’s one of the reasons it’s better to eat foods that are very hydrating than to just drink water, because the fruits that are very hydrating are kind of carrying it further into your system. That’s the understanding because they carry a lot of water and it’s going to be a in a different form because of the cellular matrix of the plant.
00:11:14 Kayla Barnes
Yeah, that’s a great point. So just to recap on EZ-Water, so the mitochondria would be the surface that the EZ-Water is then kind of landing on?
00:11:24 Rowena Gates
Yes, any cell component. I want to be clear here, although there’s been some research done to show improvement in mitochondrial function with NanoVi, really what we’ve measured and what we focus on is protein function, but the cell has loads of different components in there, and any surface in the cell will have the formation of EZ-Water around it. It won’t discriminate and just pick out the proteins. Proteins are by far the most abundant and the most readily available surface for easy water to form on.
00:12:03 Kayla Barnes
Absolutely. Let’s dive into that a little bit deeper. When you say proteins, can you kind of break it down for our listeners? I think when people hear the word protein, they probably think of a steak.
00:12:14 Rowena Gates
I think that steak is actually a really good start, so we eat protein because we know we need it in our bodies and within the body, about half of the amino acids you need come from your food and then the other half your body produces. The body is made up almost all of proteins, all the tissue, all of that is proteins, and they do all the work in the body. Any biochemical process, all of those things are protein functions, and so they’re called the workforce of the cell. You can’t kind of overestimate the importance of proteins in the body.
We take the proteins we eat and they get shredded down into the amino acids that the body can then use as building blocks for new proteins. Those amino acids – it’s amazing what the body can do, but those amino acids have to be the correct number of them. There’s twenty options, in the correct order, and with the actual correct amino acid used. Your proteins can vary from less than 10 to over 1000 amino acids in one protein. It’s helped some, or quite a few, hormones or proteins. All enzymes are proteins. They’re just proteins that initiate things. Then if you think of collagen, hemoglobin, there’s just endless examples of it that people probably know. There are all just different proteins.
Then we hear of some of the receptors were going to initiate something or block a receptor with the hope of having some pharmaceutical impact on the body. Those are protein receptors where they’re literally trying to override them, and the vast majority of the pharmaceuticals available today are using proteins, or are focused on doing something to protein functions in order to influence the body.
00:14:32 Kayla Barnes
So how does NanoVi influence these proteins? Can you tell us what it could be doing to the proteins?
00:14:39 Rowena Gates
Yeah, so it’s interesting because you could think of it as creating a better environment for the proteins to work for whatever those proteins need to do they can do it more readily because you’ve increased that exclusion zone water that’s forming layers.
One of the important parts I haven’t mentioned yet is that the protein starts as this chain of amino acid that’s called its primary structure, but for it to do anything at all, it has to fold into a very complex 3D shape.
Of course, going from unstructured amino acids to a complex shape requires some form of energy, and it’s a transfer of energy from the water to the protein that lets it fold.
It’s actually called the transfer of entropy, sort of thinking of it as from non-chaos to chaos sort of thing. It’s shifting how closely organized they are from the water to the protein. So all that NanoVi does is it improves that environment, that the necessary energy and the water is more readily available so it supports the folding, then the protein can work. And what that work is, totally depends.
00:16:10 Kayla Barnes
Amazing! So when I use NanoVi, I definitely feel an impact on lessening brain fog. I mean, you’re putting it right into your nose, so how can it correlate to the brain?
00:16:23 Rowena Gates
Well it’s interesting, it won’t matter in your system whether you put it in the n
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